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Lilith
06-09-04, 08:57AM
I have always been under the impression that orchids were difficult to grow under livingroom conditions. That impression was rather reinforced by the fact that the only orchid I have owned before (a grocery-store florists' one that arrived w/out instructions and in a so-so shape) had died despite my best efforts to keep it alive.

Now, the reason that is worth noting is that I am generally very good with plants, even with the more sensitive varieties, such as bonsai trees and potted fruiting citrus. Oh well.

Last weekend during the "relatives' visitation", I have received a Phalaenopsis hybrid (no, not a hot pink one!) from my boyfriends' grandmother--with a little instruction card and assurances that it is very easy to take care of--just put it in a somewhat light spot and submerge the bark-and-aerial-root-filled pot in water for 10 minutes every other week. And fertilize from time to time, like once a month or so with orchid fertilizer.

Thing is, I really really want to keep it alive. It is amazingly beautiful, with thick silver-green aerial roots, shiny oval leaves, and two spikes of blooms about 8cm across each in magnificent, almost highlight-marker iridescent, lime-green-yellow-with-light-purple-spotting pattern. I like flowering plants in general, but this one is of the caliber that suckers you right into silly adoration.

OK, the care sounds easy, right? Well, the thing is--I feel like I don't know enough about the plant, so I go online to read up. I find that the watering/fertilizing instructions are just as gran told me, but the light levels are hard as hell to estimate. Scandinavia or not, plants can still receive sunburn in our South window (only the citrus sits in direct light, as it seems to enjoy day-long frying), and all sites say NO direct sunlight for phalaenopsis orchids. I have placed the orchid near the wall opposing the window (a large one, french door actually), but now I worry that it doesn't get enough light... but then, it does get enough light to be equivalent to "shaded South window". Oh dammit...anyone know much about plant light levels?

To further my fretting, I find, upon closer inspection of the plant, that some (not all) of the unopened flower-buds are "blasted", meaning they have been damaged by lack or excess of something or other at the retailer, and are likely to fall off. I commence regular sprayings wth fine water mist and hope for the best, but judging by their color, they aren't likely to recover. Or they might... orchid flower life is up to 4 months (of Phalaenopsis', anyway), and that is a long time in terms of plants. Searches on several websites specializing in orchids have given me no answers, and I am a bit frustrated.

Anyone here who knows what I am talking about, advice and suggestions are very welcome.

Diva
06-09-04, 02:01PM
It sounds beautiful, Lil. I hope you can take a picture.

Does anyone have a green thumb... without the use of a magic marker?

JakeD
06-09-04, 03:39PM
My mom....

Bassmama
06-09-04, 08:02PM
I'l try to give you whatever small info I have- I worked in an orchid greenhouse for about 7 months.

As far as the light's concerned- put the phal in a south window with filmy curtains in it- they can be lacy curtains or the filmy ones, as long as they don't allow the sun to beat down on the plant directly. (that's what shade cloths over greenhouses do, also) OR get a light & plant grow-bulb & put over it. BTW- it CAN get SOME direct light- mine gets about 1 1/2- 2 hrs a day & is blooming like crazy! (the sunlight is also broken up by outside leaves as well as the sun moves position.)

Follow the rest of the directions pretty much as they were given to you- and if the plant seems to be too big for the pot, DON'T repot it- until it's so overgrown that it's absurd! Then find someone that can tell you how to do it. (Not hard- just different.) They like to be rootbound.

The buds- Hmmm; you're going to have to wait & see if they are damaged so badly that they won't bloom properly or if the damage is superficial. That's what I'd do, anyway. The amount of damage will depend on how new they were when they were damaged & how deep the damage extends- sometimes you luck out & the damage is insignificant. Do you know if she got the plant from a grower or was it a distributing store? What kind of damage is it?

Oh- BTW- if you really want to get into it more, you also might want to get a cool mist humidifier (the kind you use for a little kid's room will do) & run it, or set the plant on gravel with water in it, so it gets constant moisture.

I have about 8 orchids- 6 from one I got when I worked at the greenhouse & broke it up during the years, & 2 that I bought- & so far, they're doing really well.

Enjoy your plant. Be careful, though- orchids can be addictive!

SUE

Lilith
06-10-04, 08:16AM
Bass, thanks a lot for the advice--that is the info I needed! OK, so the guy (haven't named him yet) moves to the desk on the side of the window--it's closer to light but doesn't get a lot of direct sunlight (except the late afternoon light, which ought not damage it). We are getting a plant lamp later (bf's father has a couple), because the citrus will also need it in the winter months, so that should be fine for dark time of year.

Bud update--all 4 damaged ones fell off this morning. :( I do not think it is because of lack of humidity, as there is plenty of it in Sweden, and I have also been spraying the plant. I guess that gran got the orchid from a retailer, like a flower shop. I have checked the tag, and it's a reputable Dutch-based plant retailer that exports orchids and other plants all over Europe (including Sweden). It was wrapped when I got it, so I doubt she looked closely enough at the buds when she picked it up (she's quite elderly). Therefore, my guess is that it did not get enough water or too much water at the retailer--it doesn't seem to be light damage, as leaves and rest of the plant is in good shape. There is also a younger bud on the tip of flower spike that looks quite healthy (the "blasted" ones were all sickly yellow all the way to where they attached to the eyes of the flower-spike), and I hope that one will be all right.

I will try to take some pics of it on a sunny day, as we tried to take some with a flash last night and they turned out quite horrible.

Another question--we are leaving the plant for 1-week intervals for 3 weeks (going out of town into summer camp with short visits home in-between weeks) alone in a closed house. From what the watering instructions were, I doubt it'd be a problem as we'll water it before we leave and check up in a week. I will also make sure it's not in a spot where sunlight will fry it (I don't have filmy curtains), and turn off radiators in case the house management decides to blast them on full even though it's summer. Any other suggestions?

SysLord
06-11-04, 01:49AM
I thought this thread was going to be about a deadly infectious disease af first. I am glad it's not :)

Lilith
06-12-04, 04:05AM
/me falls over laughing

Here is your "deadly disease"!!!

kittyroze
06-12-04, 08:33AM
Oh my!

/me shakes in horror

:winkkiss:

It's gorgeous!

Diva
06-12-04, 11:21AM
It's beautiful, Lil. :D

Lilith
06-12-04, 12:04PM
Thanks guys! It really is (gorgeous and beautiful and all)--which is why I worry, I love the thing already. :(The last baby bud also went yellow, but I was told by another expert here that it's likely from prior damage and that the plant ought to be all right.

I was told to get orchid fertilizer, something like a 15-30-15, and apply it at dilute concentrations. That is high-phosphorus, a bloom-booster. Another that is recommended is a high-N. Anyone know if a high-nitrogen would be better? Egads, it's a pain to be given and love a plant that I know NOTHING about as far as care goes.
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*evil smirk at Pos*
Yes, that IS a jar of instant Gevalia Kaffe!!!

Lilith
07-01-04, 10:41AM
Well, Bassamama was right, and I got addicted. Dammit. It's all Nemz' grandmother's fault--she was the one who got me the first hit! *grumbles* Nemz is threatening to take me to detox...

I've been checking out orchids at every store I've been to, but until today I managed to pass them all by either due to price or condition. Well, to make the long story short, today we went to the grocery store, of all places, and there she was. On the top shelf behind some other pots with yellow/green hybrids, there stood Queen Nefertiti in all her iridescent white glory, with blooms 3 3/4" (10cm) across. My jaw hung. I inspected the plant and found it healthy, with vigorous aerial root system and no visible damage. Then I made huge miserable eyes at Nemz and promised not to ask for ice cream or chocolate for a month. He bought me the plant.

Here, you can see the queen in her glory (and compared in size to Pharaoh) and understand why I sacrificed ice cream and chocolate, if you're into that plant kind of thing...

Lilith
07-01-04, 10:42AM
P.S. I plan to take pictures in better light eventually--for some damned reason every time I get to photographing the orchids is after sundown.

Diva
07-01-04, 10:48AM
They're beautiful, Lil. Simply stunning.... but, Dude.... chocolate? Damn......

Lilith
07-01-04, 10:51AM
Yeah, I know... but hey, it's only for a month... and *evil giggle* then there's marzipan!!!

entipy
07-01-04, 10:58AM
Then I made huge miserable eyes at Nemz and promised not to ask for ice cream or chocolate for a month.

/me gasps

You must've really wanted it! :D

Ice Man
07-01-04, 11:38AM
I love plants as well, Lilith. However, I cannot help with this issue. I primarily deal with outdoor flowers. And right now, my roses and I are at wits end with each other. I believe to have a parasite eating my rose bushes and nothing that I have tried is helping. My yard is a work in progress and I feel some major changes happening soon. I will give you some photos soon of my babies.

Lilith
07-01-04, 12:44PM
Enty--yup, I did. She is SOOOOOOOO gorgeous! :D
"I'm not addicted...
/me hides a bottle of orchid fertilizer in a drawer
Ice--thanks, I want pictures!!! I love roses, and we plan to have more of them (only the 3.5m tall rose tree on the patio right now), but it needs to be cleared of weeds and worked on more before we plant any. :D Some of our neighbours have huge gorgeous blooms now though, so I know the soil/light/temperatures are good, at least for local hardy varieties.

Ice Man
07-01-04, 12:58PM
that could definately be a problem for me. I will relocate the rose bed later in the year or maybe in the spring. I have to replace the soil around them with top grade. Here unfortunately it is red clay which reaps havoc on the delicate variety of plants. Currently all of my more hardy plants are of the evergreen nature.

Lilith
07-01-04, 01:16PM
Sorry, you lost me a bit--what would be a problem for you? Uncleared patio or cold winters?