Feed me Seymour, feed me

[Diva]

We live in a 'thin' world. Cars, seats, and clothes are made for those lucky people who can eat a gallon of ice cream and still slip into a size five. I have always been curvy. My DDDs make life hell for me. Try buying two sizes for one outfit. Most stores have clothes for B and C cups. I've tried on shirts that turn into mid-driffs in front with a tail in back. Yeah, that's sexy... You ever pass through the 'larger women' section? It's that section hidden in the back by the bathroom with a name like 'Women's World'. Everything is shiny sequined swirly patterns that makes you look like the mother-in-law at a jewish wedding. I went by one that 'bragged' about having all the latest fashions. The idea of seeing a large women in a cut-off shirt and tight jean shorts makes me shudder. Yeah, that's attractive.

While surfing on the web I stumbled upon this magazine called Dimensionsmagazine (http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com). Honestly, at first I was going to use a page for the levity links. As I clicked through the gallery of large women in thongs and less I wondered what they were thinking. Then I asked myself why it was so bad. We treat fat people like they are some sort of disease. I'm as guilty of it as anyone. You nudge the person next to you and point to the large person on the bench. After the comments and thoughts of how they could get that large you are left with a feeling of disgust. Why?

It's none of our business why they are that big. I've known some great people who were overweight. The poundage didn't make them any less 'human'. We spend so much time trying to be prettier with thinner thighs, bigger boobs and facelifts... Maybe we lost part of ourselves in the process. Why put larger women's clothes in basement section? What are we 'ashamed' of? America is overweight. Just because your lovehandle isn't as big as their gut doesn't make it right to mock them. Just because I don't want to look that way doesn't mean they can't. I also don't want to look like a flat chested, gaunt, starving (http://www.adolescentesxlavida.com.ar/a&b_imagenes.htm) chick that can pierce you with her hip bones either.


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º Couple has Star Wars wedding (http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=11632) [Pictures]. Idjits
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[warza bidul]

It's not just about looks, it's also about health. If you're large then there's more strain on the heart, your body must support more wheight, it's a disadvantage when in plains, trains, cars, anywhere. It's all about efficiency.

Being thin has huge advantages. No one is advocating being thin, rather they are advocating being fit.

[thestarsfall]

ive never been thin (well i was a small baby but thats it) ive always been one of the larger girls in my class and it was always depressing going shopping with them cuz theyd pick out really cool clothes for us to try on and they wouldnt fit me so i felt left out...but i go shopping now and i go to those 'larger women' stores and i see these ppl shopping and they look good...like damn good their sexy and their larger than average.....and i dont feel ugly anymore i feel fine.....

[Diva]

Originally posted by warza bidul
It's not just about looks, it's also about health.

But it IS about looks. People treat you differently. I've seen it happen enough times to know that it's what's on the outside that gives the first impression. No matter how wrong it is, our society treats people according to their 'cute factor'. You watch as a large woman walks along the beach in a thong. I guarantee they'll get lots of disapproving looks. Clothes are not just made for people. They're made for 'thin people' or 'fat people'.

[MeLsWeEtiE]

Diva, you just got a Hallelujah from me sista. AMEN.

[whitecrow]

-me, never "thin" I get kinda enraged about TV only showing svelt chicks. That does not attract me. I'm a curves guy...easily.

People pretend to not be anti-anything in these days of "acceptance" yet, we who have "belly" are still being ridiculed.

/me seethes

[thestarsfall]

another thing is that lots of the think ppl arent really healthy...your not healthy just cuz your thin...if you can eat whatever you want and not gain weight then thats not a healthy eating style....and if you dont eat enough thats bad and if you eat too much thats bad....lots of the 'healthy', fit ppl arent really that great....the atheletes over-exert themselves and live only to perform and do better than each other....humans were meant to have some fat on them....in some cultures if your skinny it means your undernourished and your seen as poor

[jred]

Personally, I tend to look more at the person inside. My current gf is thin, but I'd still love her even if she gained 100 lbs. There is a point where I can't be attracted to them anymore, though.

I usually date attractive women, but women who aren't model-thin. I sometimes feel guilty for being attracted to my gf, because she is your stereotypical hottie. I feel shallow for admiring her body. I mostly realize that it's not *only* that reason that I'm attracted to her, and am ok.

I do love to ramble disjointedly, don't I.
How about "Girls Rock!" ???
:D

[warza bidul]

My current gf isn't that thin and it's nice for a girl to have curves and there's nothing wrong with that. What I'm speaking against is obesity. In other words a medical condition by which the person's size affects their health and mobility.

It's sensual to see slightly overwheight women because it enhances them compared to stick insect women (fashion models) and there's more to hug.

Who here can honestly say they like seeing cellulite or rolls of flab, who here gets turned on by fat and how often have you linked to images of overwheight women for porn? I am prejudiced. I like a certain type of face and certain types (not just one type of body but several) and a human ball is not interesting.

When I see a large (meaning quite obese) person eating at McDonald's then I'll comment on it, not so much out of dislike for the person but a dislike of what they are. I come from a culture where people are used to walking in the mountains, cycling, swimming and other such activities which mean that people may be a little round but they're not obese and I have no problem with that. My perception is based more on functionality and what I'm used to seeing rather than anything else.

In England I got used to seeing larger people but that's partly because of the climate and also to the high energy diet of chips, cheese and beans at any time of day. It's also about the huge portions which are offered in England and America compared to other European countries. Obesity is about indulgence. If someone is an alcoholic or a smoker he'll suffer from prejudice in the same way but because of marketing he'll be considered a hero rather than a villain.

Briefly what I'm saying is that it is healthy to want to see more elegant bodies, neither too thin nor too fat. It's about finding a body which is healthy. How many of you on this forum run up and down the steps or even walk up the stairs for one floor rather than taking the lift.

If I see a larger person who can dance as I've seen quite a bit then my prejudice is far lower than if I see a fat person taking a lift for one floor at 18 yrs old.

How do you NCTers view obesity in childhood which may degrade their health later in life. It's irresponsable to say that it's genetic and think that means they can eat vast quantities.

Are we talking about being slightly round or are we talking about obesity by the way. At least one or two of those people would be considered obese.

[Diva]

Originally posted by warza bidul
Who here can honestly say they like seeing cellulite or rolls of flab, who here gets turned on by fat and how often have you linked to images of overwheight women for porn? I am prejudiced. I like a certain type of face and certain types (not just one type of body but several) and a human ball is not interesting.

I'm not talking about looking at women as either eye candy or to fuck. I'm sure you see lots of women everyday that you'd never snog, but don't find 'unattractive'. This is about a person's right to like like they want to without having to deal with society's scorn. If you can't get past the sexual side of it, then we can discuss obese men, too. Those women in the magazine were happy with who they were. It's not our role in life to force people to look a certain way. Through history the ideal weight has changed, as well as the ideal body. Bottom line, it's their life and who shouldn't scorn them because of shallow or health reasons. It's none of our business. The point that I am getting at is that we 'punish' people who are overweight.

[warza bidul]

We punish people with an accent, we punish people with only one leg or arm, we punnish someone because we don't like their character. We punish someone because they are in different countries.

You may accept who you like as that's a right but we're allowed to be critical of everyone we know. The question is whether we allow our prejudice to affect the way we treat people. I hate shmucks and those idiots who are against having spots and other things. It's not necessarily your fault that you have them yet you can't have an adolescence because of that.

In fact what we should be bitching about is how we are led to believe in one ideal and if we do not meet that ideal we are forced by the scorn of others to comply to their wants and needs. The treatment of fat people is something you complain about because you feel somehow affected and that's at the root of the problem.

Everyone's insecure, dealing with your insecurities is what people should be taught to deal with.

[Diva]

Originally posted by warza bidul
We punish people with an accent, we punish people with only one leg or arm, we punnish someone because we don't like their character. We punish someone because they are in different countries.

And the list goes on... Rather than make a rant the size of War and Peace I chose one aspect of society's unfairness towards each other.


Originally posted by warza bidul
You may accept who you like as that's a right but we're allowed to be critical of everyone we know. The question is whether we allow our prejudice to affect the way we treat people.

I'm not saying you can't have an opinion. This is about how society treats people. Preferring a skinny person and making access hard for an obese person are two different things. My issue is with the latter of the two.


Originally posted by warza bidul
The treatment of fat people is something you complain about because you feel somehow affected and that's at the root of the problem.

Everyone's insecure, dealing with your insecurities is what people should be taught to deal with.

Honey, that's why I have a rant. I came across something that brought a new opinion and want to share it. It's not about insecurities, it's about the treatment of a person according to their physical appearance.

[warza bidul]

Skinny people aren't treated as well as you'd lead us to believe. A skinny person can quite easily pushed around. In the us especially we find the jock culture (according to films anyway) so wouldn't that show that the skinny guys at least are geeks?