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Diva
10-15-02, 12:24PM
When ever the conversation is about makeup with men [like me complaining that I don't want to go out without any on], most guys end up saying how they prefer the 'natural' look. That's all fine and dandy until I see how guys react to women in public. The 'natural' looking women is practically ignored while the chick with teased hair and a ton of makeup is ogled over.

Anyone care to shed some light on this?

SysLord
10-15-02, 03:48PM
Diva, compare it with two cars: one with headlights on and one without headlights. First one you spot immediately but usually is also blinding. The second takes more effort but is usually more enjoyable :)

Villager
10-15-02, 04:59PM
Think of it this way.

If you wake up with a girl in the morning, do you want her looking more or less how she did the night before or like something out of Beetlejuice?

You know what you get when you see what is there. Not that make-up was ever my thing/.

love_tattoos
10-15-02, 05:17PM
Laughing my ass off. (sorry to answer for you Princess. I just knew that one!) :)

Diva
10-15-02, 05:25PM
Hey Vill! Okay, I understand what you mean, but what about the guys who check out the made up women instead of the no makeup chicks?

kittyroze
10-15-02, 05:51PM
I think that the guys who wouldn't go out with you just because you didn't dress up aren't worth it anyway. And yes, makeup turns heads. Bright colors turn heads. Gruesome accidents turn heads...wouldn't you rather be one of the cars just driving by?

Sterling
10-15-02, 06:56PM
Guys think they want girls who don't wear makeup. What they actually want is girls who look like they don't need to - typically this look is achieved using, er, makeup. What guys generally don't like is makeup that looks like their stereotype of 'makeup' (i.e. plastered on with a trowel in bizarre quantities of unnatural hues).

I don't think there's anything wrong with caring to a degree about someone's personal grooming habits. Does it mean that you have to dress up super smart on every occasion? No. Does it mean that you have to demonstrate a little bit of self respect and make an extra effort now and then? Abso-fricking-lutely. I don't go out to a fancy restaurant wearing shabby jeans, scuffed sneakers, and a soiled heavy-metal t-shirt, and neither should you.

Bff Biff
10-15-02, 07:00PM
Why Not?

Sterling
10-15-02, 07:11PM
Because it says that you basically don't give a shit. That you're not prepared to make any effort to create a good impression, and that the people you are with are not worth making any effort for. It doesn't make you a cool rebellious individual, it just makes you rude and lazy.

Diva
10-15-02, 07:15PM
Thank you, Sterling. I knew I could count on you for an honest answer. I agree that you should take some time to look good. Even if it's just for yourself. I know that I feel horrid if I don't do anything before going out... even if it's just to the store.

Vill... I used to wake up about an hour before my last boyfriend and brush my teeth, etc... then go back to bed when he stayed over.

Sterling
10-15-02, 07:38PM
Right. I'm not saying you have to take it to extremes, or that I expect people I'm with to look fabulous at all times - that would clearly be ridiculous. However, it's nice when people make an effort every now and then. That doesn't mean buying designer clothes and getting $75 haircuts. It does mean taking a little bit of time to put some effort in given your resources.

I remember a girl I dated in college. People would tell me how well she always dressed. Truth was, she didn't have much money, and most of her clothes were cheap things from chain stores, but when we went out, she'd take the time to think about how to make the best of what she had, so the end result looked good. What made me feel good was that she made an effort when we went out, that she had decided I was worth making an effort for. That's a great feeling to give someone.

Bff Biff
10-15-02, 10:56PM
I do agree.

I go out of my way to change my undies' at least once a week. My wife notices the effort. So do my dogs, who follow me around, waiting for shit to fall out of my pockets. So, from my dogs point of view, I'm a hero. They're nicer than people too.

and... keep you warm at night, even when you don't know which end is which.

SysLord
10-16-02, 03:12AM
Guess I belong to the ones that don't give a shit then lol. Sterling, I agree with you to a point: hygiene that is. I think there's a major difference between dressing up and being clean. I am a jeans and t-shirt man, ALL the time. People call me a knacker? So what? Do I care? Should I care? I even dress like this when I go into work where a large number of people are dressed like top-paid CEO's. Some of them look weary at us 'geeks'. Do I care? Nope. At the end of the day, it's the $$ in the bank account that matters. Not many regular employees can topple mine, suit or not. Do I wear a suit when I have to meet customers? Nope. Do I care? Nope. Should they care? Nope cos I don't stink and I can do the business. The rest doesn't matter. Honestly, life's way too short to spend 2hrs in front of the fricking mirror every day. Do you really expect people to wake up like fim stars early in the morning? Well actually I do, I like look Krusty :)

Be decent but also be yourself.

SysLord
10-16-02, 03:13AM
Originally posted by Diva
Vill... I used to wake up about an hour before my last boyfriend and brush my teeth, etc... then go back to bed when he stayed over.

That's the maddest thing I have ever heard :confused:

Here's little anecdote to counterbalance that:

When I was still living in Ireland, my girlfriend and I once went to our local pub with her wearing my pyjamas bottoms. Oh, and the pub was crowded, as asual :)

Villager
10-16-02, 06:28AM
Originally posted by Diva
Hey Vill! Okay, I understand what you mean, but what about the guys who check out the made up women instead of the no makeup chicks?

Make-up can compliment beauty; in moderation. Personally, I prefer a naturally beautiful girl with little or no make-up. That shows self confidence and a disregard for those who might be 'checking her out'.

Diva
10-16-02, 06:49AM
Originally posted by SysLord
That's the maddest thing I have ever heard :confused:


Why? I want to have sex when I get up and I don't want to have morning breath. Plus, there's nothing sexy about eye boogers.

I want the guy I'm with to look good too. I used to drive my ex crazy. Which is why he's my ex. A computer analyst/biker. Or, a geek on wheels as I would call him. I made him drive an hour to his house and back because he showed up in sweats when we were going to a nice restaurant. I figured he wouldn't come back, but he did. If you care about someone, then you'll want to look good for them.


Originally posted by Villager
Make-up can compliment beauty; in moderation. Personally, I prefer a naturally beautiful girl with little or no make-up. That shows self confidence and a disregard for those who might be 'checking her out'.

Let me tell you that I sat and watched men and women walk around yesterday and the guys checked out the chicks with make-up. Personally, I think it's more of a taken thing. 'You have me, why do you need to look good for anyone else' kind of thing.

SysLord
10-16-02, 06:54AM
I prefer brushing my teeth right before the act. Getting up half-an-hour earlier is not an option. And I do like a sleep face :)

Villager
10-16-02, 07:00AM
Originally posted by Diva
Let me tell you that I sat and watched men and women walk around yesterday and the guys checked out the chicks with make-up. Personally, I think it's more of a taken thing. 'You have me, why do you need to look good for anyone else' kind of thing. [/B]

While that may be a factor in some cases, I think it has much to do with the individual. Is the person comfortable with their appearance - good or bad - enough to go out 'naked' or do they need to cover up? I'm not saying make-up automatically equals self-confidence deficiency, but i think the two are often inextricably linked.

Andie
10-16-02, 10:42AM
Im just sneeking in this..

The person i intend to wake up beside will be as beautiful then as she always are..:)
With or without any makeup..

Jake
10-16-02, 12:54PM
I'll have to tell you, I do like a woman to take the time and make herself look pretty. I'm not talking a bunch of make-up or hair as tall as she is. But I'd rather look at a beautiful woman with makeup than a woman who looks as if she jumped out of bed and walked out the door.

love_tattoos
10-16-02, 01:27PM
Andie your girlfriend must be going crazy waiting for you to move closer to her! And if that doesn't work out, I just might be available (see Marriage?? thread) :winkkiss:

Andie
10-16-02, 01:28PM
My girlfriend and me are no more..So..let me know..;)

love_tattoos
10-16-02, 01:31PM
Well that little bit of information is going to cause quite the frenzy around here. Girls?! I see cat fights in our future. :)

(p.s. Sorry things didn't work out with her Andie)

Princess
10-16-02, 01:37PM
Originally posted by Andie
My girlfriend and me are no more..So..let me know..;)


I'm in line too andreas.... and I have food.....

Andie
10-16-02, 01:40PM
Im yours, Princess!!

Princess
10-16-02, 01:41PM
*FAINT*

Andie
10-16-02, 01:43PM
*catches Princess and carries her of into the sunset*

love_tattoos
10-16-02, 01:47PM
Wow! That was quick. We other girls didn't even get a chance.
:( Better luck next time I guess.

Andie
10-16-02, 01:53PM
Thanks for the thought LT..:)
But thats life i guess..

Diva
10-16-02, 03:04PM
Wha... Huh? What did I miss? Argh! I hate being at work!

dc
10-17-02, 06:37PM
I prefer a weeks worth of shiny lip gloss, neon eyeshadow, 3 inch eyelashes, spandex mini-boy-pants, 6 inch heels and big fake titties in a white wife beater shirt.

I love LA!

kittyroze
10-23-02, 03:38PM
I think we did lose a few here...WELL, I'll repeat what I said before, and that is that I, myself, prefer a more natural look...


http://www.nochicktrix.com/fun/oth/vb/kitty/kitten.jpg

kittyroze
10-23-02, 03:39PM
Whhoooopppps!!! Somebody apparently messed with my images... Damn pranksters.... This is what I meant to post...

Bff Biff
10-23-02, 04:02PM
Ooooh I forgot how sexy this is. Puuuuurrrr Kitty.

I'm packing now, Kitty. See you soon. (shit, K says I'd be arriving in a box. Oh well, sweet dreams of whiskers)

kittyroze
10-23-02, 04:03PM
Rrrrraow!!!

SysLord
10-24-02, 02:51AM
Does that Kitty need some 'milk'? ;)

kittyroze
10-24-02, 04:10AM
Hee hee hee...meow?

What about playing dumb?:baby: