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SysLord
04-26-02, 06:12AM
Creeps, crime and online dating
msnbc.com 25/04/2002

April 25 — A recent news report out of Japan finds that crime linked to online dating sites is on the rise. Headline news analysis: Creeps and weirdoes may log on, yes, but hey, they don’t dwell only on the Internet. Don’t blame the pixels.

STATISTICS WHICH CONCLUDE that just about anything is up on the Internet from one year to the next are sort of ridiculous, simply because use of the medium has been increasing since it became public and commercial. So it stands to reason that from one year to the next, numbers gauging anything that happens on the Web would show an increase.
But these figures from Japan’s National Police Agency, which showed crime rising 8.5 percent last year over the year 2000, are worth mentioning simply because e-mail and the Web do seem to be changing the way we the people meet potential lovers or mates, as well as the way we interact with them. You don’t need any statistics to illustrate that — just ask your friends.
An overwhelming majority of the victims of “online love crimes” are women, according to the Japanese findings, and 80 percent are minors. The crimes include extreme cases of murder and rape, as well as other less heinous incidents. But now is a good time to remind even those of you out there who are not Japanese, not female, and not under 18, that proceeding with caution in matters romantic and online is advised, to protect your physical safety. (As far as your emotional well-being and how to safeguard that in affairs of the heart, whether they are sparked online or off, well, that’s a whole other story.)

One peculiar example of crime and online romance came this week from a journalist in the British newspaper, The Guardian. She wrote about a man she met at the online personals section of Nerve.com, and how he somehow hacked into her e-mail. With that mail as a guide, he seemed magically, soulfully, to have his finger on the pulse of her every thought and move. Understandably, her discovery of his violation of her privacy sent her cascading into despair.
But again, such a thing could happen between two people who know one another in the real, not virtual world. I’ve heard more than one person confess that they’d snooped into their significant others’ e-mail boxes when they weren’t around, and as long as there have been quills, people have been reading their loved ones’ letters. Doesn’t make it right, but doesn’t mean the Internet is evil.

ONLINE DATING ACCEPTABLE

What’s perhaps most interesting about the Japanese study is how socially acceptable online dating appears to have become, an acknowledgement that in this crazy, disenfranchised world, it pays to advertise and in fact, many people do.
Once upon a time, not so very long ago, the notion of personal ads conjured up images of social misfits. I remember curiously leafing through the Village Voice personals as a kid in the seventies as my mother helped a girlfriend of hers sift through responses to an ad she’d placed. Had I known that twenty years into the future such a thing would be one of the few boom sectors in the ailing Internet economy, I might have counseled my investment-wise mommy to find a way to make a business of it. Then, however, the practice was hushed, and all seemed torrid.
In 1986, I made my first foray into the personals. I placed an ad of my own in an alternative paper in the town in North Carolina where I’d moved, but I wasn’t looking for a boyfriend — I was looking for friends of a particular sort, namely, fellow New Yorkers. (A club was spawned, called New Yorkers Anonymous.) Had I moved to a new city in the age of the Web, finding like-minded friends from my hometown would have been even easier.

This sector of online personal ads — simply friendship — is one that those in the business say will likely grow in the future. The unfortunately named Lavalife, which happens to be a partner of MSNBC.com (hey, I told you this was becoming more mainstream — even the New York Times now lets you place romance ads) intends to add a “Friends” section sometime later this year. Peter Housley, chief executive of the business, said the company has found that some people just want to find someone to go to the movies or have coffee. On the other side of the spectrum, Lavalife also allows you to advertise if all you want is to have a fling, making it the virtual equivalent of a singles sex cruise.
Match.com, the eBay of online dating, is more PG rated, at least explicitly. Trish McDermott, who has the coolest title ever — Vice President of Romance — attributes that to the fact that the service was developed mostly by women, who were mindful of making the site seem safe and user friendly.
She herself met her fiancé online — as a divorced single mom working full-time, she explained, where else would she meet potential candidates? (Of course, it’s not bad for business to be able to point to your own personal success with the company that employs you.)

ONLINE DATING SAFER

Cynicism and natural bias acknowledged, McDermott is correct when she reminds us that online dating is in some ways safer than meeting someone out in the random world. For one thing, there’s a digital paper trail on every member.

“When you meet someone at a nightclub, you don’t really know who they are,” she said. Ads that are placed on the service are vetted by a 60-person customer service staff, which rejects those that contain personal contact information, profanity or explicit sexual references.
“I don’t think the Net is populated by any one group of people,” she said. “It’s like society in general, it’s like dating in general.”
Which is to say that just like with the “real world,” there are nice people out there, and strange people out there, people with good intentions and bad. And that means that caution is advisable, as it would be in offline dating. “It’s not rocket science,” McDermott said, who suggests moving slowly and enjoying the “incremental release of information” that happens when two people interchange online. “If no red flags went off, let’s have a cup of coffee, that goes well, let’s have dinner,” she said.
After that, you can deal however you’d like with the emotional hazards inherent in romantic liaisons. For those, you can’t blame the Internet. But if the Japanese government does a study measuring that seemingly immeasurable fact of life, we’ll be sure to keep you apprised.

Any good and/or bad experiences from NCT members?

Jennafer
04-26-02, 09:14AM
I like making online friends and learning about other cultures, but as far as romance goes I like to meet men in bars where they're so attractive with the whole beer gut and drunk attitude thing going on. (I'm kidding) Actually I met my fiance' in a bar and it turned out pretty good. I think people looking for online love can turn out to be decieving, if not dangerous. :eek:

Diva
04-26-02, 01:02PM
I have, unfortunately. I have one stalker, one pest/wannabee stalker, a psycho... and one guy who said some mean crap about me on his website.

I've also met some wonderful people who I wouldn't trade in for the world. I've learned, to an extent, to be more cautious. I know I need to be moreso. Overall, it's always good to be careful... but some chances are worth taking.

SysLord
04-26-02, 03:04PM
That sucks big time, Diva. I hope that you manage to deal with them somehow.

Diva
04-26-02, 04:11PM
Originally posted by GLADIATOR
Well I can be a pain in the ass, but I am no stalker. Tell me to go, and I am gone.

Jennafer.
Whatever I say is just a joke. Go?? Heck no! You're my Gladiator! :kissy: :kissy:

Jennafer
04-27-02, 12:06AM
Joke? I "really" thought you were gonna take a plane and come ravage me. oh, well. anyway.
I'm not really scared of people out in the world, but I just think alot of them suck. but then alot of them are funny, so it's a trade off. that sucks Diva that you have stalkers. :(

GLADIATOR
04-27-02, 02:00AM
Originally posted by Jennafer
that sucks Diva that you have stalkers........:(

I wish I had one. I tend to get ignored.:(

Jennafer
04-27-02, 08:57AM
AWWWWW. We're sorry Gladiator. :( I usually reply to you and I know you're joking. I do that quite a bit too, but it gets me in trouble! I must be the alien in the frying pan! Hungry anyone? I have deep fried alien, fresh from the hot Crisco with a little ketchup on the side. yum yum. Oh, back to stalkers. I don't think I have any. or that I know about. but I'm pretty paranoid so I would notice some freak lurking around me wherever I go. I'd have to insert his favorite toy (between the legs) into my vegetablee chopper. Hannibal Lector delight! ha ha. :eek: :eek: :eek:

dc
04-29-02, 12:05PM
BASICS:

- NEVER ... NEVER, never-ever lie!
- When posting an add, keep taking pic's of yourself until you get one that say's "love me, NOW!" then, post it.
- The text in the ad is meaningless, exception being; INCOME.
- 2 weeks of email correspondence before the first meeting,
(consistency check)
- Do some phone! (make sure your chores are done first)
- Fat girls might give thier height (unless they are short)
- Rich girls might ask for money (some kind of abberant behavior)
- Cute girls usually don't write/e-mail/communicate too well
- Skinny girls want to be fed (my favorite part)
- Ugly girls will need love too (leave those for the next dude)
- Stalkers are ... SOO easy to get rid of ...

(email me:-)

Jake
05-02-02, 01:34PM
I've met some great people on the net, but I think it's easier for a guy. I seem to remember a couple of idiots that were chased away from here a while back.

My sister had a boy she met that tried to take over her life. She couldn't breath without him knowing. My brother found the little prick and paid him a visit. She hasn't heard from him since.

Redallnite
05-02-02, 07:23PM
I have had nothing but a wonderful experience playing on the Internet, well maybe except for all the junk mail and pop ups. I was a member of a "gore" site the people were great!!! The kids would rant on and on at times. I can't wait to come to this site. I am a private person so I'm great with one liners... I have opened up so much with all of ya'll.

As far as bad experiences, ha I'm such a chicken shit I won't talk with anyone until I know they won't talk about nasty stuff all the time!! My sister told me all about the bad stuff long before I started playing on this puter, so I steer away from people that aren't who they say they are it comes out sooner or later. We all know that..

Well thats it with my oneliners......... :kissy: :kissy:

kms
05-05-02, 07:55AM
Just a short funny story. Well at least i think so!

I was playing yahoo pool against this guy he asked me the usual asl and then he told me I was an old bag who probably had saggy tits. Well I thought to myself your out of here as soon as I win this game (ego thingy) and then he asked the question.

Do you masturbate? Without hesitation I replied No my saggy tits get in the way and I can't find it!

Needless to say he quit the game and I won Yeah

I enjoy meting people on the internet but unfortunatly thier are some sick barsteds out there.

Being single I enjoy a chat once in a while but not with young foolish boys.

Anybody up for a game?

Long live saggy tits!!!!!

;)

Jennafer
05-05-02, 12:12PM
Long live saggy tits! LOL. *freak!* Just kidding. ;)

Redallnite
05-05-02, 09:08PM
When someone asked me ASL I said "ok, I'm not dumb but don't curse me....." clicked that person off....

Diva
05-05-02, 09:20PM
What the heck is ASL????

kms
05-06-02, 12:39AM
A S L is your age, sex and where you live (chat lingo)
They have all wierd ways of talking on the net as you can see!!!!

Diva
05-06-02, 01:35AM
Oooooooh! That's okay, when I first came on line I thought it was really odd that everyone signed their name Lol. I said that I know a guy named Lol, but I never figured out how to spell his name. I've never felt so blonde in all my life.

SysLord
05-06-02, 02:45AM
Here's a small list of them:

AFK Away from the keyboard
AOL America OnLine
A/S Age/Sex?
A/S/L Age/Sex/Location?
BAK Back at Keyboard
BBIAB Be back in a bit
BBL Be back later
BBS Be back soon
BRB Be right back
BTW By The Way
CCC City Conference Crew. (Talk City Staff)
CSA (C)ity (S)tandards (A)dvisor - resolve questions with Standards Issues.
DCC Direct Client to Client (similar to a 1/1)
FTP File Transfer Protocol
FWIW For What It's Worth
FYI For Your Information
G Grin (often used as )
GMTA Great Minds Think Alike
HTML HyperText Markup Language
HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol
IM Instant Message: refers to private conversations, 1/1, 1-2-1, PM, MSG
IMHO In My Humble Opinion
IOW In Other Words
IP Internet Protocol
IRC Internet Relay Chat
ISP Internet Services Provider
LMAO Laughing My *Anatomy* Off
LOL Laughing Out Loud
LTNS Long Time No See
MSG Message (private message)
MYOB Mind Your Own Business
OIC Oh, I See
OTOH On The Other Hand
NP No Problem
PM Private Message
POP Point of Presence
PPP Point-to-Point Protocol
PPL People
ROFL Rolling On the Floor Laughing (also ROTFL)
RTFM Read the Freaking Manual
S Smile
SLIP Serial Line IP
TCC Talk City Crew (Talk City Volunteers)
TCP Transmission Control Protocol.
TTF Too, Too(?) Funny
TTFN Ta-Ta For Now
URL Uniform Resource Locator
WB Welcome Back
WWW World Wide Web
1/1 Private message (from 1 person TO 1 person)
1-2-1 Private message (from 1 person TO 1 person)
1 to 1 Private message (from 1 person TO 1 person)

Redallnite
05-06-02, 06:49PM
All of that is just too much to remember....... AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Jennafer
05-06-02, 09:35PM
No shit! I just take it as it comes. (don't be thinking dirty thoughts either!!!) ha ha. ;)

Diva
05-07-02, 12:37AM
Dont forget my favorite!

WTF: What the fuck?!?!