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Diva
03-29-02, 06:48AM
VERMILLION (http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/archives/index.inn?loc=detail&doc=/2002/March/27-3029-state02.txt) - A teen-ager who flipped up his middle finger and mouthed the f-word several times to Yankton Middle School Principal Wayne Kindle was within his free-speech rights and should not have been convicted of disorderly conduct, the state Supreme Court was told Wednesday.

Kindle and his family had stopped at a grocery store on Aug. 27, 2000, and were about to leave in their van when S.J.N-K. began harassing them. The Kindles drove off, and S.J.N-K. followed in a pickup driven by his brother. The boys then cut diagonally across a parking lot and swerved in front of the Kindles as they pulled onto the street.

Kindle slowed his van, but the pickup S.J.N-K. was riding in also slowed, and he stuck his head out the window and again made the obscene gestures. The two vehicles traveled about a mile before the pickup driver went south and Kindle went north.

Police were notified, and S.J.N-K., then 14, was charged with disorderly conduct. He pleaded not guilty, and a trial was held. Finding the boy guilty, Circuit Judge Glen Eng placed him on probation for six months and ordered him to do 20 hours of community service.

S.J.N-K.'s lawyer Marcia Brevik told the Supreme Court that her client's behavior was vulgar but did not amount to disorderly conduct. Disorderly conduct is defined in state law as causing serious public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or as fighting, threatening or violent behavior. But Brevik said extending the middle finger and mouthing the f-word are constitutionally protected forms of free speech.

"There was no physical or verbal struggle for victory. No hostile encounter, affray or altercation," Brevik said. All that was proved in juvenile court was that S.J.N-K.'s behavior was objectionable and inappropriate, his lawyer said. The boy's conduct was protected by the freedom of expression guaranteed in the First Amendment, Brevik said. Kindle should have just shrugged off the unpleasant encounter, she said.

"I don't think that there's a remedy in the courts for hurting feelings," she told the justices. "I don't think a legitimate interest of state government is to regulate conduct that hurts the feelings of other people."

Had Kindle felt threatened, he could have turned off the street at any of the numerous intersections along the one-mile stretch, Brevik said.

"It is well within the ability of a middle-school administrator to anticipate an adolescent might continue to display offensive conduct where its recipient willfully and actively makes himself available to continue to receive it," the juvenile's lawyer said.

S.J.N-K. was not protected by the free-speech provisions of the First Amendment because he intimidated the Kindles by making the lewd gestures several times, argued Frank Geaghan, an assistant attorney general. "It seems obvious that the defendant's behavior was intended to provoke Kindle," Geaghan said.

The school principal told police he felt threatened because the boy mouthed the f-word as least four times and held his extended middle finger out of the pickup window during most of the episode, the state lawyer said. The continuous nature of the boy's actions amounted to disorderly conduct and were far outside the realm of free speech, Geaghan argued.

"The right of free speech is never absolute at all times and under all circumstances," he said. "Taunts and other harassing conduct is ... not protected by the First Amendment."

Justice John K. Konenkamp wondered aloud how judges would decide when someone has gone overboard in speech and gestures. "How do we distinguish between the right to use your finger once and the right to use your finger 100 times?" the justice asked.


Brevik told the high court that use of the f-word has become more common, and it hardly has the same shock value as in the past. "It's just not a word that we now believe would taunt any one of us," she said.


Brevik said the boy has already completed his probation but appealed the verdict in order to clear his record. She said the boy had had several run-ins in seventh grade with Kindle in his job as middle school principal. S.J.N-K. had studied several hours each day during the summer of 2000 in an attempt to avoid further conflicts with the principal, hoping to skip eighth grade and go straight to high school, Brevik said.

The encounter with Kindle and his family may have occurred because the principal had refused to allow S.J.N-K. to skip eighth grade, Brevik said. "He's simply expressing his opinion and his disrespect for Mr. Kindle," she said of her client's actions.

The boy later managed to skip eighth grade and start high school by transferring to Vermillion, Brevik said.

When is it free speech and when is it disorderly conduct? You be the judge.

SysLord
03-29-02, 07:01AM
Forget about the court case and give the kid a good kick in the arse.

ozblonde
03-30-02, 01:38PM
Someone give that kid a medal there is no way on gods green earth I would ever have dared to jack my principal. I would have been kicked by the principal and my father. S.J.N-K your a brave kid go for it man,.

SysLord
03-30-02, 02:07PM
Brave? Would you call him brave if he was just being obnoxious per se? With no obvious reason? Would you like to have been at the receiving end in that case?

Diva
03-30-02, 04:08PM
Originally posted by Diva
Brevik said the boy has already completed his probation but appealed the verdict in order to clear his record. She said the boy had had several run-ins in seventh grade with Kindle in his job as middle school principal. S.J.N-K. had studied several hours each day during the summer of 2000 in an attempt to avoid further conflicts with the principal, hoping to skip eighth grade and go straight to high school, Brevik said.

The encounter with Kindle and his family may have occurred because the principal had refused to allow S.J.N-K. to skip eighth grade, Brevik said. "He's simply expressing his opinion and his disrespect for Mr. Kindle," she said of her client's actions.

The boy later managed to skip eighth grade and start high school by transferring to Vermillion, Brevik said.

Syslord, you must have missed this part. The teen had several run ins with the principle already. What teen would study for several hours a day during the summer to skip a grade and get away from that principle. Not to mention leaving his friends behind. I remember Jr High being a time when friends were very close. He would have to leave them too. I think that there was a lot more going on then just a kid being obnoxious.

SysLord
03-30-02, 04:30PM
Yes I did, my fault entirely. I think I will change my opinion on this one!

Redallnite
03-30-02, 08:55PM
And boy you can really post some long ones......:shutup:

Jake
04-01-02, 11:47AM
It's funny how the adults are always ready to blame the teen. I'll bet that kid wasn't even given a chance. I know for a fact that there are adults who abuse their position and intimidate kids just because they can. I know the kid was out of line, but not like this. This deserved a phone call to the parents, not a policeman at the door.