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Diva
03-22-02, 06:15AM
UK warns Saddam of nuclear retaliation

BRITAIN would be ready to make a nuclear strike against states such as Iraq if they used weapons of mass destruction against British forces, Geoff Hoon, the Defence Secretary, told MPs yesterday.

He issued his warning as officials in Washington and London privately predicted that military action to try to topple Saddam Hussein was likely to be launched at the end of the year.

Mr Hoon was briefing the Commons defence select committee on the threat posed by four countries Britain had identified as "states of concern": Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea.

He said that Saddam had already used chemical weapons against his own people. The possibility that rogue states would be prepared to use such weapons again, possibly sacrificing their own population, could not be ruled out.

He said that dictators such as Saddam "can be absolutely confident that in the right conditions we would be willing to use our nuclear weapons.

"What I cannot be absolutely confident about is whether that would be sufficient to deter them from using a weapon of mass destruction in the first place."

Mr Hoon's willingness to confirm readiness to use nuclear weapons in such circumstances was seen at Westminster as a clear sign that the Government is becoming more alarmed that Saddam is developing chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

A joint Ministry of Defence and Foreign Office paper to the committee said it was a "serious cause for concern" that states were developing a ballistic missile capability at the same time as they were seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction.

Mr Hoon said that Britain could come within range of missiles fired from the Middle East within the "next few years".

Although Mr Hoon later denied in the Commons that any decision had been taken on military action against Iraq, his comments about the nuclear deterrent will add to Labour MPs' concern that such preparations are being actively considered.

His forthrightness was unexpected, because many Labour MPs are opposed to retaining nuclear weapons.

In the 1980s Labour was unilateralist and Tony Blair was briefly a member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, although as party leader he has backed the nuclear deterrent.

Mr Hoon's comments follow similar noises from America. Two weeks ago a leaked Pentagon policy document laid out the possibility of a "devastating response" to the use of biological or chemical weapons against American troops.

The Prime Minister intends to use the large deployment of British fighting forces to Afghanistan as a political lever to push President Bush into seeking United Nations approval for any military action against Iraq.

He supports Mr Bush in his campaign to remove Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and topple Saddam, but wants to broaden the front.

Downing Street hopes the deployment to Afghanistan of 1,700 British troops, led by 45 Commando the Royal Marines, a unit specialising in Arctic warfare, will strengthen his position when he meets Mr Bush at his Texas ranch after Easter.

"The speed and size of the deployment to Afghanistan is a cheque that Blair will cash in," a source said. "He will tell Bush that he needs to carry the international community with him."

The Foreign Office, in particular, is deeply worried about the impact that a war in Iraq would have on the Middle East. But it appears to have been overruled by Mr Blair.

"The Prime Minister thinks Saddam poses a threat that has to be met with a strong response," a source said. "He is feeling gung-ho."

Dick Cheney, the American vice-president, headed home yesterday after an 11-day tour of the Middle East in which he received little support for an attack on Iraq. Instead he was urged to do more to end the fighting between Israel and the Palestinians.

As Iraq gloated about Mr Cheney's "bitter disappointment", the Turkish prime minister, Bulent Ecevit, said he felt greatly relieved that Washington was not planning imminent action against Iraq.

"This does not mean an operation has been ruled out," he said. "But I do not think there could be military action in the coming few months."

I have so many mixed feelings about this. On one hand, we need to protect ourselves. And taking out the threat of Iraq and their biological warfare does seem like the way to go. But Nukes? We could be killing ourselves. I have always said that Sadam should have been executed during the war. You leave him in place, then the war was for nothing. The fact that he tested on his own people shows you there are no limits to what he will do. Anyone else?

SysLord
03-24-02, 02:47AM
Atomic weapons is NOT the way to go about this. It will be like opening the box of Pandora. Tomorrow it's Saddam, the day after it's someone else who we don't particularly like. I am not a fan of Saddam but there are other ways of doing away with dictators like him. His own people bare the first responsability.

Diva
03-24-02, 03:21AM
I agree completely. When will we learn that mass destruction is not the easy way out. It would be so easy to push a button. But we will be killing ourselves even more than what we have done to our earth as it is. The poison in the grounds is nothing compared to what could happen should a swift wind turn that death on the nearest country, or in the water.

I remember being so terrified reading Stephen King's The Stand. Not from the Devil, but from the casual way the germ spread. You hand a waitress change, she gives someone else change. Why would Nuking Sadam be so finale? It would only be the beginning. We would have to watch for YEARS and pray it didnt come our way. And in the end, it would.

Once someone uses the nuclear bomb, it makes it 'easier' for the next person to justify doing so. It would not stop there.

SysLord
03-24-02, 03:36AM
Diva, I have seen the stand as well. One of the most eerie tv-series ever. And what made it so eerie was exactly the ease in which the disease spread itself and how people underestimated the impact until it was way too late.

SysLord
03-24-02, 04:00AM
Euh, remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Does anyone really need more proof of the damaga they can do? And don't forget, the A-boms they used in the 1940's are compared pittens to what they have now... No thank you!